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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 1 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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But to the matter, these Bishops (saith M. Harding) Communicated together before they met. If he mean, in Faith, and Religion, it is not denied: if, in the use of the Sacraments, it is not proved. In my judgement this word Eucharistia, in this place of Irenaeus, signi•eth not the Sacrament already consecrate, but rather other common Bread, wherewith one Bishop used then to present an other, as with a special token of consent in Religion, and Christian concord: which Bread the receiver afterward if he thought it good, might use at the holy Ministration. In that sense it seemeth Paulinus wrote unto S. Augustine,1 Panem unum sanctitati tuae charitatis gratia misimus, in quo etiā Trinitatis soliditas continetur. Hunc panem tu eulogiam esse facies dignatione sumendi. In token of mutual love, I have sent unto thee one loaf of Bread, in which also the soundness of the holy Trinity is contained. This loaf you shall cause to be a loving present of my behalf vouch-saving to receive it. 2And in the next Epistle following. Quinque Panes misimus tibi pariter & filio nostro Licentio. Non enim potuimus in benediction secernere, quem cupimus eadem nobis gratia penitus annectere. Five loaves have I sent unto thee, and unto my Son Licentius. For I could not sever him in blessing, whom I desire throughly to join with us in grace. Hereby it may appear that this Bread was not the Sacrament: and namely by that Paulinus writeth in an other place:3 Panem unum, quem unanimitatis indicio misimus charita•i tuae, rogamus ut accipiendo benedicas. I pray you to take and bless this one Loaf, which I have se•te unto you in token of unity. If it had been already Consecrate, he would not have desired S. Augustine to have blessed it.
But to the mater, these Bishoppes (saithe M. Hardinge) Communicated togeather before they mette. If he meane, in Faithe, and Religion, it is not denied: if, in the vse of the Sacramentes, it is not proued. In my iudgement this woorde Eucharistia, in this place of Irenaeus, signi•eth not the Sacrament alreadie consecrate, but rather other common Breade, wherewith one Bishop vsed then to present an other, as with a special token of consent in Religion, and Christian concorde: whiche Breade the receiuer afterwarde if he thought it good, might vse at ye holy Ministration. In that sense it séemeth Paulinus wrote vnto S. Augustine,