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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 21 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 21 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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It were very much for M. Harding to say, that he prayeth God, that the holy Ghost may come upon Christ: or, that God at his request, and for his sake, will favourably, and cheerfully behold his own Son: or, so receive him, being our Lord, and God, as he sometime received a Goat, or a Weather, or any other like corruptible kind of Sacrifice.
It were very muche for M. Hardinge to say, that he praieth God, that the holy Ghoste may come vpon Christe: or, that God at his request, and for his sake, wil fauourably, and chearefully beholde his owne Sonne: or, so receiue him, beinge our Lorde, and God, as he sometime receiued a Goate, or a Weather, or any other like corruptible kinde of Sacrifice.
How be it, if he speak plainly, and dissemble not, as some of his friends are afraid, he doth, then is this undoubtedly the very tenor, and meaning of his prayer. But if he dissemble, and speak otherwise, then he thinketh, and that at the secretest, and holyest part of all his Mass, then by his own Confession, and by the Authority of his own Mass book, the Sacrament is not Lord, and God.
How be it, if he speake plainely, and dissemble not, as some of his frendes are afraide, he dooth, then is this vndoubtedly the very tenoure, and meaninge of his praier. But if he dissemble, and speake otherwise, then he thinketh, and that at the secreteste, and holyest parte of al his Masse, then by his owne Confession, and by the Authoritie of his owne Masse booke, the Sacrament is not Lorde, and God.
In the Council holden at Carthage under S. Cyprian,1 Caecilius à Bilta saith thus, Antistes Diaboli audet Eucharistiam facere: A Priest of the Devil dareth to make the Sacrament: Which words by M. Hardinges exposition, must needs sound thus, A Priest of the Devil dareth to make our Lord, and God. Which saying notwithstanding, among the Priests of M. Hardinges side, is not so strange. For thus they dare to say without fear, or shame, Sacerdos est Creator Creatoris sui: qui Creavit vos,