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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Preface: ¶AN ANSWER TO M. Hardinges Preface.Preface: ¶AN ANSVVEARE TO M. Hardinges Preface.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
You seem to complain, that I leave out prayer for the Dead, and Invocation of Saints: And that thing you amplify largely with many words. And yet I think, you would not have us believe, that these points of your Religion be greater, then your Sacrifice, or then your Mass.
Yowe seeme to complaine, that I leaue out praier for the Deade, and Inuocation of Sainctes: And that thinge yowe amplifie largely with many woordes. And yet I thinke, yowe woulde not haue vs beleeue, that these pointes of your Religion be greater, then your Sacrifice, or then your Masse.
Verily, touching the first, I heard once, when you your self blew down the Paper Walls, 1as ye then called them, and utterly quenched all the Painted Fires of Purgatory. For the other, S. Chrysostom saith, Homines utuntur Atriensibus. In Deo nihil est tale. Sine mediatore exorabilis est: Menne use Porters, and Ushers. But in God there is no such thing. He is easy to be entreated, yea without a Mediator.2 Again he saithe, Nihil tibi opus est Patronis apud Deum. Neque enim tam facile Deus audit, si alij pro nobis orent, quàm si ipsi oremus, etsi pleni simus omnibus malis: 3Thou needest no Attorney to speak to God. For God doth not so soon hear us, when others pray for us, as when we pray for our selves: Yea although we be full of all sin. S. Ambrose likewise saith, Isti se non putant reos, qui honorem nominis Dei deferunt Creaturae, &, relicto Domino,4 conseruos adorant. Nam & ideo ad Reges per Tribunos, & Comites itur: quia homo utique est Rex, & nescit, quibus debeat Rempublicam credere. Ad Deum autem, quem nihil later, omnium enim merita novit, ad promerendum suffragatore non est opus, sed mente devota. Ubicunque enim talis •oquutus fuerit ei, respondebit illi: These men think, they do no il, giving the honour of God unto à Creature, and leaving the Lord, adore their fellow servants. For therefore we have access to Kings by Knights, and Marshals, for that the King is a mortal man, and knoweth not, to whom he may commit his Kingdom. But God knoweth all mens merits, and there is nothing privy from him. Therefore to obtain his favour, we need no Spokesman, but a devout mind. Where so ever such a one shall speak, God will answer him.