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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 1 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Hitherto M. Harding hath brought Doctors without Reason: now he bringeth Reason without Doctors. And how say you sir? saith he, Do you reprove the Mass? Or do you reprove Private Mass? I trust, he hath not so soon forgotten, whereof he hath discoursed all this while. Neither doth the matter rest upon that point, what I list to allow, or disallow: but what he can prove, or not prove, by the Scriptures, and by the ancient Councils, and Fathers.
Hitherto M. Hardinge hath brought Doctours without Reason: nowe he bringeth Reason without Doctours. And howe say you sir? saithe he, Doo you reproue the Masse? Or doo you reproue Priuate Masse? I trust, he hath not so soone forgotten, wherof he hath discoursed al this while. Neither dothe the mater reast vpon that pointe, what I liste to allowe, or disallowe: but what he can proue, or not proue, by the Scriptures, and by the auncient Councels, and Fathers.
But mark well, good Christian Reader, and thou shalt see, how handsomely M. Harding conveyeth and shifteth his hands to deceive thy sight. First he hath hitherto forborne both the name, and also the proof of Private Mass: and only hath used the words of Sole Receiving, and Single Communion: and so hath taken pains to prove that thing, that was never denied: and that thing that we deny, and wherein the whole question standeth, he hath left utterly untouched. Now he demandeth whether I reprove the Mass, or the Private Mass? what meaneth this, that Private Mass, and Sole Receiving, be so suddenly grown in one? Surely M. Harding well knoweth, that the nature of these words is not one. Neither who so ever receiveth alone, doth therefore of necessity say Private Mass. This so sudden altering of terms may breed suspicion.
But marke wel, good Christian Reader, and thou shalt sée, how handesomely M. Harding conueieth and shifteth his handes to deceiue thy sighte. Firste he hath hitherto foreborne bothe the name, and also the proufe of Priuate Masse: and onely hath vsed the woordes of Sole Receiuinge, and Single Communion: and so hath taken paines to proue that thinge, that was neuer denied: and that thinge that we denie, and wherein the whole question standeth, he hath leafte vtterly vntouched. Now he demaundeth whether I reproue the Masse, or the Priuate Masse? what meaneth this, that Priuate Masse, and Sole Receiuing, be so sodainely growen in one? Surely M. Hardinge wel knoweth, that the nature of these woordes is not one. Neither who so euer receiueth alone, dothe therefore of necessitie say Priuate Masse. This so sodaine alteringe of termes may bréede suspicion.