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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › M. Harding. The .28. Division.Article 1 › M. Hardinge. The .28. Diuision.
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M. Harding. The .28. Division.
M. Hardinge. The .28. Diuision.
Now to this end I drive these allegations, leaving out a great number of the same sense. Although many times the people forbore to come to the Communion, so as many times (36)1 none at all were found disposed to receive, yet the holy Fathers, Bishops and Priests, thought not that a cause why they should not daily offer the blessed Sacrifice, and celebrate Mass. Which thing may sufficiently be proved, whether M. Ivel that maketh himself so sure of the contrary, will yield, and subscribe, according to his promise, or no. Of the daily Sacrifice, these words of Chrysostom be plaine: Quid ergo nos? Nonne per singulos dies offerimus? offerimus quidem, sed ad recordationem facientes mor••s eius: & una est hostia, non multae &c. Then what do we? do we not offer every day? Yes verily we do so. But we do it for recording of his death. And it is one host, not many. Here I hear M. Ivel say, though against his will, I grant the daily Sacrifice, but I stand still in my negative, that it can not be showed, there was ever any such Sacrifice celebrated, without a Communion, that is, as they will have it, without some convenient number to receive the Sacrament in the same place with the Priest. For proof of this, these be such places as I am persuaded withal. The better learned men, that be of more reading then I am, have other, I doubt not.
Now to this ende I driue these allegations, leauinge out a greate number of the same sense. Although many times the people forbare to come to the Cōmunion, so as many times (36)1 none at al were founde disposed to receiue, yet the holy Fathers, Bishoppes and Priestes, thought not that a cause why they shoulde not daily offer the blessed Sacrifice, and celebrate Masse. VVhiche thinge may sufficiently be prooued, whether M. Iuel that maketh himselfe so sure of the contrary, wil yeelde, and subscribe, accordinge to his promisse, or no. Of the daily Sacrifice, these woordes of Chrysostome be plaine: Quid ergo nos? Nonne per singulos dies offerimus? offerimus quidem, sed ad recordationem facientes mors eius: & vna est hostia, non multae &c. Then what doo wee? doo wee not offer euery day? Yes verely wee doo so. But wee doo it for recordinge of his death. And it is one hoste, not many. Here I heare M. Iuel say, though against his wil, I graunte the daily Sacrifice, but I stande stil in my negatiue, that it can not be shewed, there was euer any suche Sacrifice celebrated, without a Communion, that is, as they wilhaue it, without some conuenient number to receiue the Sacrament in the same place with the Prieste. For proufe of this, these be suche places as I am perswaded withal. The better learned men, that be of more readinge then I am, haue other, I doubte not.