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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 1 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 1 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Now if we say,1 that some of these Priests, Deacons, or other Communicated with the Bishop, I tell them (saith M. Harding) boldly, and with a solemn countenance, which must needs make good proof, This is but a poor shift, and will not serve their purpose. But if it be true, it is rich enough: if it agree with Chrysostoms own meaning, it is no shift: & therefore sufficiently serveth our purpose.
Now if wée say,1 that some of these Priestes, Deacons, or other Communicated with the Bishop, I tel them (saithe M. Hardinge) boldely, and with a solemne countenaunce, whiche must needes make good proufe, This is but a poore shifte, and wil not serue their purpose. But if it be true, it is ritche yenough: if it agrée with Chrysostomes owne meaning, it is no shifte: & therefore sufficiently serueth our purpose.
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And because he sitteth so fast upon the bare words, and reposeth all his hope in Nemo, if we list to cavil in like sort, we might soon find warrant sufficient to answer this matter, even in the very plain words of Chrysostom. For thus they lie. Frustra assistimus Altari, In vain we stand at the Altar. We stand (saith he) and not, I stand: and therefore includeth a number, & not one alone. How be it our shifts are not so poor: we need not to take hold of so small advantages.
And bicause he sitteth so fast vpon the bare woordes, and reposeth al his hope in Nemo, if wée liste to cauil in like sorte, wée might soone finde warrant sufficient to answeare this mater, euen in ye very plaine woordes of Chrysostome. For thus they lie. Frustra assistimus Altari, In vaine wee stande at the Aultare. Wee stande (saith he) and not, I stande: and therefore includeth a number, & not one alone. How be it our shiftes are not so poore: wée néede not to take holde of so smal aduantages.