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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Preface: ¶AN ANSWER TO M. Hardinges Preface.Preface: ¶AN ANSVVEARE TO M. Hardinges Preface.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Touching D. Fisher, I scoffed neither at him, nor at any others. Only I laid out the imperfection of certain their Arguments: which if they were weak, & many ways faulty, the fault was not mine: I made them not. D. Fishers Argument was this:1 We are sure, there is Purgatory: Ergo, the Popes pardons be good, and available. I shall be forced in perusing your Book, to disclose many like infirmities, and follies in your Arguments, M. Harding. Yet notwithstanding I will not scoff. But happy are you, that may call us Gospellers, New Masters, Patriarchs, and, I know not what, and to write, what you list, without scoffing. In the end of your foretalke, which is before the showing of your Book, ye think all the world singeth Sanctus, Sanctus, and receiveth you with Ozanna. And therefore ye will every body to come, and subscribe. How be it, it seemeth, this request is very sudden & out of season. You should first have showed us, both whereunto we should subscribe, and also your Authorities, and Reasons, wherewith ye would force us to subscribe. But the old learned Father Tertullian saith thus of the Valentinian Heretics:2 Habent artificium, quo priùs persuadent, quàm doceant. Veritas autē docendo suadet, non suadendo docet. These Heretics have a kind of cunning, and a policy, whereby they persuade us first, and teach us afterward. But the Trueth persuadeth us by teaching: and not teacheth us by persuading.
Touchinge D. Fisher, I scoffed neither at him, nor at any others. Onely I laide out the imperfection of certaine their Argumentes: whiche if they were weake, & many waies faultie, the faulte was not mine: I made them not. D. Fishers Argumente was this:1 We are sure, there is Purgatorie: Ergo, the Popes pardonnes be good, and available. I shal be forced in perusinge your Booke, to disclose many like infirmities, and folies in your Argumentes, M. Hardinge. Yet notwithstandinge I wil not scoffe. But happy are you, that may cal vs Gospellers, Newe Maisters, Patriarkes, and, I knowe not what, and to write, what you liste, without scoffinge. In the ende of your foretalke, whiche is before the shewinge of your Booke, ye thinke al the worlde singeth Sanctus, Sanctus, and receiueth you with Ozanna. And therefore ye wil euery bodie to come, and subscribe. How be it, it séemeth, this request is very suddaine & out of season. You should first haue shewed vs, bothe whereunto wée shoulde subscribe, and also your Authorities, and Reasons, wherewith ye would force vs to subscribe. But ye olde learned Father Tertullian saith thus of the Ualentinian Heretiques: