A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare

But Urbanus Regius a Doctor of Luther's School confesseth it. First Urbanus Regius departed this life not above twenty years ago: and therefore is a very young witness, to testify a thing done so long before. Besides this, the Book of Common Places, that is abroad in his name, is nothing else but a heap of things gathered together by long reading, as the manner of students is, out of divers and sundry books, and that as well of the one side, as of the other, only for help of memory, and increase of knowledge. Neither was that Book ever corrected or published by him, but only delivered to the Printer, as it was, by his widow after his death, as appeareth by Pomeranus, that dedicated that book to the Prince of Mensburg. And therefore these collections do witness his diligence, but not his judgement. As touching that note concerning the Council of Ephesus, it may be thought, he had it out of Alardus, or Michael Vaehe, or some other like writer of this age.

But Vrbanus Regius a Doctour of Luthers Schoole confesseth it. First Urbanus Regius departed this life not aboue twéentie yeres agoe: and therefore is a very younge witnesse, to testifie a thinge doone so longe before. Bysides this, the Booke of Cōmon Places, that is abroade in his name, is nothing els but a heape of thinges geathered togeather by longe readinge, as the manner of studentes is, out of diuers and sundrie bookes, and that as wel of the one side, as of the other, onely for healpe of memorie, and increase of knowledge. Neither was that Booke euer corrected or publisshed by him, but onely deliuered to the Printer, as it was, by his widowe after his death, as appeareth by Pomeranus, that dedicated that booke to the Prince of Mensburg. And therefore these collections doo witnesse his diligence, but not his iudgement. As touchinge that note concerninge the Councel of Ephesus, it may be thought, he had it out of Alardus, or Michael Vaehe, or some other like writer of this age.

Nestorius amongst other errors (saith M. Harding) held opinion, that under the form of Bread in the Sacrament is contained the Body of Christ without his Blood, and under the form of wine, the Blood only, without his Body. Why should this man thus delight him self, to uphold one falsehood with an other? First he saith, The Council of Ephesus decreed against Both Kinds. This is untrue, and was never yet proved. Next, some cause must be devised, that should lead the Fathers to that Decree. Which, as it is here surmised, was this error of Nestorius. A cause that never was, is good enough to prove the effect, that never was. Thus is M. Harding driven not only to forge New Doctors, and New Decrees of Councils, but also to imagine New Heresies, such as were never heard of before: even in like sort, & to like purpose, as by some it is supposed, that Aristotle sometime imagined strange, and monstrous opinions to be taught by Democritus, Parmenides, Melyssus, and other old Philosophers: not because they had ever taught, or written so in deed, but to the end to find occasion of talk, and the better to set abroad his own learning. If it be true, that is surmised by Nestorius, then M. Hardinges whole defence standeth but upon an Heresy: if it be untrue, as in deed it is, then it standeth upon an open falsehood: and so, whether it be true, or false, it hath a very weak foundation.