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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare
A reply unto M. Hardinges answer by perusing whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weak, and unstable grounds of the Romaine religion, which of late hath been accounted Catholic. By John Jewel Bishop of Salisbury.A replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveare by perusinge whereof the discrete, and diligent reader may easily see, the weake, and vnstable groundes of the Romaine religion, whiche of late hath beene accompted Catholique. By Iohn Iewel Bishoppe of Sarisburie.
Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the sign of the Black Oliphant, by Henry Wykes, Anno. 1565Imprinted at London : In Fleetestreate, at the signe of the Blacke Oliphante, by Henry VVykes, Anno. 1565
Article 2 › The B. of Salisbury.Article 2 › The B. of Sarisburie.
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Nestorius amongst other errors (saith M. Harding) held opinion, that under the form of Bread in the Sacrament is contained the Body of Christ without his Blood, and under the form of wine, the Blood only, without his Body. Why should this man thus delight him self, to uphold one falsehood with an other? First he saith, The Council of Ephesus decreed against Both Kinds. This is untrue, and was never yet proved. Next, some cause must be devised, that should lead the Fathers to that Decree. Which, as it is here surmised, was this error of Nestorius. A cause that never was, is good enough to prove the effect, that never was. Thus is M. Harding driven not only to forge New Doctors, and New Decrees of Councils, but also to imagine New Heresies, such as were never heard of before: even in like sort, & to like purpose, as by some it is supposed, that Aristotle sometime imagined strange, and monstrous opinions to be taught by Democritus, Parmenides, Melyssus, and other old Philosophers: not because they had ever taught, or written so in deed, but to the end to find occasion of talk, and the better to set abroad his own learning. If it be true, that is surmised by Nestorius, then M. Hardinges whole defence standeth but upon an Heresy: if it be untrue, as in deed it is, then it standeth upon an open falsehood: and so, whether it be true, or false, it hath a very weak foundation.
Nestorius emongst other errours (saithe M. Hardinge) helde opinion, that vnder the forme of Breade in the Sacrament is conteined the Body of Christe without his Bloud, and vnder the forme of wyne, the Bloud onely, without his Body. Why shoulde this man thus delite him selfe, to vpholde one falsehead with an other? First he saithe, The Councel of Ephesus decreed against Bothe Kindes. This is vntrue, and was neuer yet prooued. Next, some cause must be diuised, that shoulde leade the Fathers to that Decrée. Whiche, as it is here surmised, was this errour of Nestorius. A cause that neuer was, is good yenough to prooue the effecte, that neuer was. Thus is M. Hardinge driuen not onely to forge New Doctours, and New Decrées of Councels, but also to imagine New Heresies, such as were neuer hearde of before: euen in like sorte, & to like purpose, as by some it is supposed, that Aristotle sometime imagined straunge, and monstrous opinions to be taught by Democritus, Parmenides, Melyssus, and other olde Philosophers: not bicause they had euer taught, or written so in déede, but to the ende to finde occasion of talke, and the better to set abroade his owne learninge. If it be true, that is surmised by Nestorius, then M. Hardinges whole defence standeth but vpon an Heresie: if it be vntrue, as in deede it is, then it standeth vpon an open falsehead: and so, whether it be true, or false, it hath a very weake fundation.