Four great liars, striving who shall win the silver whetstone Also, a resolution to…Foure great lyers, striuing who shall win the siluer whetstone Also, a resolution to…

3 They make the twelfth and eleventh houses being higher above the horizon then the first, to be of less force then it: and the fourth house to be of greater power then any above the Horizon not Cardinal: and the end of the ninth to be more in power then the beginning of the eleventh house: all which are against reason, ⟨image 37⟩because a Planet the more perpendicular his beams are, the more is his force. They answer, although the force of the light be greater, yet the secret influence is less, and the first house hath more forcible influence than the twelfth or eleventh. If the influence be secret how can they know it? again they can by no good experience show that those houses have more influence then the rest: this influence maketh against them. I say they cannot prognosticate because they know not one stars virtue. For whereas they say, that the sun, and moon and planets have most force. I answer that it is by reason of their light, not their influence, which is small, and there is far greater in the smallest fixed Stars. So that the fixed Stars although they have no light, or very small light perceived, yet they have most influence. And so these men must needs dream because they judge by wrong causes. Well, their figure being framed and distinguished with fair characters, then go they on to find the Lord of the ⟨image 37⟩figure, that is, that Planet which hath most dignities in the figure.

3 They make the twelfth and eleuenth houses being higher aboue the horizon then the first, to bee of lesse force then it: and the fourth house to bee of greater power then any aboue the Horizon not Cardinall: and the ende of the ninthe to be more in power then the begynning of the eleuenth house: al which are against reason, ⟨image 37⟩because a Planet the more perpendicular his beames are, the more is hys force. They aunswere, althoughe the force of the light be greater, yet the secret influence is lesse, and the first house hath more forcible influence thē the twelfth or eleuenth. If the influence be secret how can they knowe it? againe they can by no good experience showe that those houses haue more influence then the rest: this influence maketh against them. I say they cannot prognosticate because thei know not one starres vertue. For whereas they saye, that the sunne, and moone and planets haue most force. I aunswere that it is by reason of their light, not their influence, which is small, and there is farre greater in the smallest fixed Starres. So that the fixed Starres althoughe they haue no light, or very small light perceiued, yet they haue most influēce. And so these men must needes dreame because they iudge by wrong causes. Well, their figure beeing framed and distinguished with faire characters, then goe they on to find the Lord of the