A09739:26
An answer made the fourth day of September a thousand five hundred sixty [and]…Ane answer made the fourth day of Septembre a thousand fyue hundreth syxtie [and]…
An answer made the fourth day of September a thousand five hundred sixty [and] one, by maister Theodore de Besza minister of the holy Evangel, in the presence of the queen mother, the king and queen of Navarre, the princes of the blood royal, and of the privy counsel, unto that which the cardinal of Lorraine had replied against that which was propounded in the first journey of their talking together, by the said de Besza in the name of the reformed churches. Together with an other short answer made by the said de Besza the 26 day of the said month unto certain articles of reply set forth by the said cardinalAne answer made the fourth day of Septembre a thousand fyue hundreth syxtie [and] one, by maister Theodore de Besza minister of the holie Euangile, in the presence of the quene mother, the king and quene of Nauarre, the princes of the blood royall, and of the priuie counseil, vnto that whiche the cardinall of Lorraine had replied against that whiche was propounded in the first iourney of their talking together, by the said de Besza in the name of the reformed churches. Together with an other short answer made by the said de Besza the 26 day of the said moneth vnto certein articles of replie set forth by the said cardinall
Edinburgh: printed by Robert Lekprewik, 1562
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Now by this means groweth there a question, to wit whether the Church be invisible, the which seemeth that so it must be concluded, seeing that God only may know his elect and predestinate: & also that we say, that we believe the holy Church, and that which is believed, is not seen.1
Now by this meanes groweth there a question, to wit whether the Churche be inuisible, the wc semeth that so it must be concluded, seing yt God onelie may know his elect and predestinate: & also that we say, yt we beleue the holie Churche, and that whiche is beleued, is not sene.1
- 1That which is believed is not senThat whiche is beleued is not sen
But hereof there followeth a great inconvenient, if simply and barely we speak so of it. For if it be so, unto what company may a man join him self, & what means shall we use to have salvation if we know not the Church whereunto we may join our selves ⟨image 10⟩considering that upon the Church only, Jesus Christ poureth out his virtue and force, to save mankind?
But hereof there followeth a greate inconuinient, if simply and barely we speak so of it. For if it be so, vnto what company may a man ioyn him self, & what meanes shall we vse to haue saluation if we knowe not ye Churche whereunto we may ioyn oure selfes ⟨image 10⟩considering that vpon the Churche onely, Iesus Christe powreth oute his vertue and force, to saue mankinde?