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An evident display of Popish practises, or patched Pelagianism Wherein is mightily cleared the…An euident display of Popish practises, or patched Pelagianisme Wherein is mightelie cleared the…
An evident display of Popish practises, or patched Pelagianism Wherein is mightily cleared the sovereign truth of Gods eternal predestination, the staid groundwork of our most assured safety by Christ. Written in Latin by that reverend father, master Theodore Beza, and now lately Englished by VV.H. preacher of the Gospel.An euident display of Popish practises, or patched Pelagianisme Wherein is mightelie cleared the soueraigne truth of Gods eternall predestination, the stayd groundworke of oure most assured safetie by Christ. Written in Latin by that reuerend father, mayster Theodore Beza, and now lately Englished by VV.H. preacher of the Gospell.
London: printed by Ralph Newberie, 1578
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And first in deed that which thou sayest of the necessity of sinning, I can not sufficiently marvel, that thou haste overshot thy self, which so often hast reproved us for that cause, because we say, that men do sin, albeit willingly, yet of necessity. But this indeed is the power of the trueth, that it even constrain liars oftentimes to disagree with themselves. But there be two things which I demand here: For I would have thee express how God doeth deliver us from this necessity of sinning: that is to wit, by his son; and that only by grace. And I do not rashly deem, lest, albeit it may be, that thou diddest never inquire, neither what Pelagius held, nor especially what Augustine hath answered to the Pelagians, yet the same furies enforce thee, wherewith once Pelagius being driven, did miserably trouble the West parts.
And first in déede that which thou saist of the necessitie of sinning, I can not sufficientlye maruell, that thou haste ouershotte thy selfe, which so often hast reproued vs for that cause, bycause we say, that men do sinne, albeit willinglie, yet of necessitie. But this indéede is the power of ye trueth, that it euen constraine lyers oftentimes to disagrée with themselues. But there be two things which I demaund here: For I would haue thée expresse how God doeth deliuer vs from this necessitie of sinning: that is to witte, by his sonne; and that onlye by grace. And I do not rashely déeme, leaste, albeit it may be, that thou diddest neuer inquire, neyther what Pelagius helde, nor especially what Augustine hath aunswered to the Pelagians, yet the same furies enforce thée, wherewith once Pelagius being driuen, did miserably trouble the West parts.
Then that which thou addest of the disobedience of men, doeth not in deed satisfy me, because we have already resolved many arguments, of which it may ⟨p. 267⟩easily be gathered, that original sin, or sin by propagation, thou dost utterly hold for a fable, or in deed dost extenuate & make less, that that which belongeth to propagation, thou rather thinkest it to be attributed to imitation.