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Two very learned sermons of M. Beza, together with a short sum of the…Two very lerned sermons of M. Beza, togither with a short sum of the…
Two very learned sermons of M. Beza, together with a short sum of the sacrament of the Lords Supper: Whereunto is added a treatise of the substance of the Lords Supper, wherein is briefly and soundly discussed the p[r]incipall points in controversy, concerning that question. By T.W.Two very lerned sermons of M. Beza, togither with a short sum of the sacrament of the Lordes Supper: Wherevnto is added a treatise of the substance of the Lords Supper, wherin is breflie and soundlie discussed the p[r]incipall points in controuersie, concerning that question. By T.W.
London: printed by Robert Walde-grave for T. Man, 1588London: printed by Robert Walde-graue for T. Man, 1588
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Q 8 What ought we to judge of this manner of saying, Christ is present in the supper, corporally, really, substantially?
Q 8 What ought we to iudge of this manner of sayeng, Christ is present in the supper, corporallie, reallie, substantiallie?
A For the self-same cause before alleged, we do not use these forms of speech neither:1 notwithstanding it should seem, that they also might be tolerated or borne withal, so that we add the interpretation following, to wit, that these things do not pertain to that manner of conjunction, whereby the thing is joined with the signs, but serve rather to express and declare the matter it self, that is to say, that so we may understand, that by the action of the supper, there is established and confirmed in us, not only the virtue and power of Christ, but chiefly, our very growing up with christ himself, from which we have affirmed the same to flow,2 even as it were, from a fountain, because afterwards we fetch from him, both true life, and also all things necessary to salvation. Neither would I judge ⟨p. 141⟩it to be refused, that a like interpretation may again be joined to this our manner of speaking, that Christ is spiritually in the supper, least any man should think that we separate Christs power from the very flesh of Christ, or imagine unto him a special body.
A For the selfe-same cause before alleadged, wee doo not vse these formes of speech neither:1 notwithstanding it should seeme, that they also might bee tollerated or borne withal, so that we adde the interpretation following, to witte, that these things doo not pertaine to that manner of coniunction, wherby the thing is ioyned with the signes, but serue rather to expresse and declare the matter it selfe, that is to say, that so wee may vnderstand, that by the action of the supper, there is established and confirmed in vs, not onlie the vertue and power of Christ, but chiefly, our very growing vp with christ himself, from which we haue affirmed the same to flowe,