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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. I skill not greatly of these stories: and it may •e doubted whether they be true. For men are prone commonly to think and speak evil: specially of such as are of high calling. Howbeit, if they be true: what is that to us? The Popes may err in manners, we grant, but not in doctrine. Neither if a man be naught in conversation, is therefore his religion naught. Judas an Apostle, Nicolas a Deacon; gthe one betrayed Christ, hthe other bred the Nicolaitans: both fa•tie in their lives; but the Christian faith, which they professed is not faulty. There be, that write also reports very shameful of your Doctors and Pastors: iof Calvin, that he committed a detestable sin; kof Bucer, that he denied Christ at his death. Which things are as odious, as those that you rehearse of this or that Pope. But if I should urge them, you would reject them as impertinent.
Hart. I skill not greatly of these stories: and it may •e douted whether they be true. For men are prone commonly to thinke and speake euill: specia•ly of such as are of high calling. Howbeit, if they be true: what is that to vs? The Popes may erre in maners, we graunt, but not in doctrine. Neither if a man be naught in conuersation, is therefore his religion naught. Iudas an Apostle, Nicolas a Deacon; gthe one betrayed Christ, hthe other bredde the Nicolaitans: both fa•tie in their liues; but the Christian faith, which they professed is not fautie. There be, that write also reportes verie shamefull of your Doctors and Pastors: i