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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. It hath been heretofore read so in some prints.
Hart. It hath béene heretofore reade so in some printes.
Rainoldes. It hath so: but amiss. For Novatian was ordained of others, though unlawfully: as oEusebius showeth, and pCyprian did know. Whereupon, that fa•tie reading is amended in the qlater prints out of written copies: and ra note reproving it (least it creep in again) is left by Pamelius. Whose edition sith sStapleton praiseth as best corrected, and followeth it for advantage: to change a word of it here, in such sort, it was a feat and had a purpose. But the second feat doth excel this. For, because Cyprian saith of a thief, that he succeeding no man arose of him self: Stapleton doth take him as though he had defined a thief by those words. Whereof he would have the reader to conceive that they who have succession, and are ordained lawfully, can not be thieves: a thing which Cyprian meant not. But therein he dealeth with the words of ⟨p. 348⟩Cyprian as if a man should say to define a doctor: a doctor is he, who interpreteth the scriptures, that is (as tCyprian writeth) who doth corrupt the gospel, and is a false expounder of it. For these are Cyprian's words, and spoken of Novatian Doctors. But they were not spoken to define a doctor. For then they should be verified as well of all doctors, as they be of Doctor Stapleton. Yet he who should define a doctor so, to prove him one, and that out of Cyprian: should serve him such a feat as he doth serve a thief, and take him in the snare which him self hath framed.