A10345:103
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Rainoldes. The words which you allege are not of the Syriac translation: they are Hebrew. But as the Hebrew [Greek or Hebrew] is one in both places: so the Syriac I grant hath [Greek or Hebrew] in them both. And I gladly take it (because our Saviour Christ spake in that tongue) as an exposition of his words to Peter. Yet I note by the way, that although your rcouncil of Trent hath allowed the latin old translation alone as authentical, and hath decreed thereof that no man shall dare or presume under any pretence to reject it: notwithstanding, you your selves will depart from it, and that not only to the original (which we should not be suffered) but also to translations, if they may seem to make for you in any point more then your old doth.
Rainoldes. The wordes which you alleage are not of the Syriake translation: they are Hebrue. But as the Hebrue 〈non-Latin alphabet〉 is one in both places: so the Syriake I graunt hath 〈non-Latin alphabet〉 in thē both. And I gladlie take it (because our Sauiour Christ spake in that tongue) as an exposition of his wordes to Peter. Yet I note by the way, that although your rcouncell of Trent hath allowed the latin olde trāslation alone as authenticall, and hath decréed thereof that no man shall dare or presume vnder any pretense to reiect it: notwithstanding, you your selues will depart from it, and that not onelie to the originall (which wee should not bee suffred) but also to translations, if they maye séeme to make for you in any point more then your olde doth.
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Hart. We do not reject that authentical translation, but open the sense of it, by comparing it with the greek, and the greek with the Syriac.