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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Unless your Divines of Rhemes do abuse him. For out of that epistle cthey teach us this lesson. God preserveth the truth of Christian religion in the Apostolic See of Rome, which is in the new Law answerable to the chair of Moses, notwithstanding the Bishops of the same were never so wicked of life: yea though some traitor as ill as Judas were Bishop thereof, it should not be prejudicial to the Church, and innocent Christians, for whom our Lord providing said, Do that which they say, but do not as they do. August. Epist. 165. Now, in bthe epistle alleged and quoted for proof of this lesson, S. Austin saith the very same, which in athe other, of wicked Bishops in general; though applying it in particular to the Bishops of Rome, if any of them had been wicked. Your Divines of Rhemes, leave out *the general words: that simple men may think he meant a special privilege of the See of Rome. Whereto they note in the margin: The See of Rome preserved in truth. And upon dother like places: The dignity of the See of Rome. And that which passeth all, they say that in the new law the See of Rome is answerable to the chair of Moses: the Apostolic See of Rome. I was of opinion (before I saw these glosses of theirs upon the Testament,) that Stapleton had passed all the Popes retainers in abusing Scriptures and Fathers for the Papacy. But now I perceive and confess, that as eJerusalem did justify her sister Sodom: so the Divines of Rhemes have justified their brother Stapleton. For Stapleton, as he hath dealt with greater truth and honesty then they, in many other points▪ so hath fhe showed in this of Scribes and Pharisees sitting in Moses chair, both, that the text is meant of wicked Bishops, all such as say ⟨p. 352⟩