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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Of the two places, whence he gathereth this, the former agreeth fully with the later; the later is the same that your Divines of Rhemes abuse, as I have showed. In both S. Austin speaketh of wicked Bishops generally, not specially of the Pope. In both he meaneth the office of teaching by [the chair:] the office, committed not to one Bishop, but to all. If Genebrard do take [the chair] in this sense: how proveth it your privilege? If he mean the See of Rome by [the chair:] then is there *a conspiracy of Prophets among you, as there was among the Jews, and Genebrard is one of them.
Rainoldes. Of the two places, whence he gathereth this, the former agreeth fully with the later; the later is the same that your Diuines of Rhemes abuse, as I haue shewed. In both S. Austin speaketh of wicked Bishops generally, not specially of the Pope. In both he meaneth the office of teaching by [the chaire:] the office, committed not to one Bishop, but to all. If Genebrard doo take [the chaire] in this sense: how proueth it your priuilege? If he meane the Sée of Rome by [the chaire:] then is there *a conspiracie of Prophets among you, as there was among the Iewes, and Genebrard is one of them.
Hart. It is not likely that S. Austin used the name of the chair, for the office of teaching, which is common to all Bishops, as well to hirelings, as to pastors. For he saith that the chair constraineth them to speak good things and true: the chair constraineth them. How are they constrained but by a special grace for the benefit of the Church? And in what Bishops may this grace be showed, but in the Popes only?
Hart. It is not likely that S. Austin vsed the name of the chaire, for the office of teaching, which is common to all Bishops, as well to hirelinges, as to pastors. For he saith that the chaire constraineth them to speake good thinges and true: the chaire constraineth them. How are they constrained but by a speciall grace for the benefite of the Church? And in what Bishops may this grace be shewed, but in the Popes onely?