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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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You should mistake me, if you should imagine that I mean our pulpit hath a special grace to keep all preachers still from error. Even so do they S. Austin, who dream of such a chair in his words. Howbeit, if you think that a chair with him is of greater force, then a pulpit with us: yet you can not think but that his words spoken of the Scribes and Pharisees are meant of all Bishops, who say and do not. For so he expoundeth the Scribes and Pharisees often, even in the same tbook which your Rhemists allege. Wherefore if the Pope by virtue of the chair cannot err as Pope: then an other Bishop cannot err as Bishop by virtue of the same chair. But any other Bishop, you grant, may err as Bishop. Therefore you must grant, the Pope may err as Pope.
You should mistake me, if you should imagin that I meane our pulpit hath a speciall grace to kéepe all preachers still from errour. Euen so doo they S. Austin, who dreame of such a chaire in his wordes. Howbeit, if you thinke that a chaire with him is of greater force, then a pulpit with vs: yet you can not thinke but that his wordes spoken of the Scribes and Pharises are meant of all Bishops, who say and doo not. For so he expoundeth the Scribes and Pharises often, euen in the same tbooke which your Rhemists alleage. Wherefore if the Pope by vertue of the chaire cannot erre as Pope: then an other Bishop cannot erre as Bishop by vertue of the same chaire. But any other Bishop, you graunt, may erre as Bishop. Therefore you must graunt, the Pope may erre as Pope.
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Hart. Nay, I will grant rather that S. Austin erred, and