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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. You do us great injury, in that you seem to make it all one to reject the authentical Latin, and to take advantage for our selves out of the original texts.
Hart. You doe vs great iniurie, in that you séeme to make it all one to reiect the authenticall Latin, and to take aduantage for our selues out of the originall textes.
Rainoldes. For your selves? Nay, I make not that all one. I said, If we should do so, not, If you should do so. For do you what you list: and all must be soothed as agreeing with your Latin, and opening the sense of it. But if we should take advantage for our selves by the original texts: our advantage would be nipped on the head as a pretence. For example, Andreas Masius, a learned man of yours, hath written a Commentary on the book of Joshua: in the which he lanceth your authentical Latin, almost in every Chapter: yea, she saith that S. Jerome, (if he be the Author of it) doeth seem to have translated *wittingly a place against the meaning of the Hebrew, that he might vouch a fancy of his own thereby. Yet tthe Popish Censor, who allowed it to the print, witnesseth of that Commentary that ait lighteneth and openeth the common old translation greatly. Let us do much less, let us but raze the credit of it: and will you give that Censure of us? Nay, if we do note that uwhere your old translation hath of the frame or imagination of mans hart, that it is 1prone to evil, the Hebrew text hath, not prone to evil, but