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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. The case in these things is not like. For all are bound to lead a godly life by them selves: and he, who is not resident by himself, is not resident.
Hart. The case in these thinges is not like. For all are bound to leade a godly life by them selues: and he, who is not resident by himselfe, is not resident.
Rainoldes. So he, who doth not preach by himself, doth not preach. For therefore is a pastor bound to personal residence, that he may attend his flock by himself, & preach unto it personally. Which you may learn by the decree of the Council of Lateran made against non-residence, & pluralities, a root of it. kBecause (saith the Council) some men through exceeding covetousness do seek to get divers dignities ecclesiastical, and benefices mo then one, against the ordinances of holy rules and canons, so that 1being scarce able to execute & discharge one office they take unto them selves the stipends ⟨p. 365⟩of many: we command straitly that this be not done hereafter. When therefore a benefice or charge ecclesiastical is to be bestowed, 2let such a person be sought for it, as may be resident on the place, and perform the duty thereof by him self. The cause then why persons are charged to be resident, is, that they may perform the duty (* serve the cure, as it is termed) by them selves, and not by vicars. Wherefore if they may preach (which is the duty) by others: they may be resident by others. To say they maybe resident by others, were ridiculous. It is no reason therefore to hold that they may preach by others.