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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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And may not these affairs so weighty in charge, in number so many, be a just excuse for them if they preach not? Or will you slander them that they omit that duty for their state-affairs, when they omit it for the Church?
And may not these affaires so weightie in charge, in number so manie, bee a iust excuse for them if they preach not? Or will you slaunder them that they omit that dutie for their state-affaires, when they omit it for the Church?
Rainoldes. I would to God you were able to prove that I slander them, and speak more spitefully then truly of them. ⟨p. 371⟩Better had it been and would be for poor Christians: of whom they have murdered more souls, nay more thousands of souls, in one country, with their Herodian practises; then rHerod murdered bodies through his whole dominion. And this have they done by that profane policy, wherewith I justly charged them: even by pretending the Churches state, to plant their own; and using the shows of government spiritual to get them temporal advancement. For under the colour of binding and loosing, the credit of forgiving sins, the title of S. Peters keys, their ordering of the whole Church, and highest power in all Church-causes: they have raised up the tower of their Papacy with the spoils of Christendom, and have devoured men as bread, and sold the poor for silver, that they might make themselves strong in power and rich in wealth. The first, and chiefest means, whereby they finished this work, and having built the walls by climbing up above Bishops, did lay the roof of it by climbing up above Emperors, was excommunication. Which they, not content to use against their Sovereigns as a spiritual censure, did rack it to a civill punishment; removing them, not only from the communion of the faithful, but also from dominion and rule over their subjects; and putting them, as from the Church, so from the Empire too. When Emperor Leo the third, desirous to abolish the worship of Images (which then was creeping in) had caused them to be defaced, and thereupon did punish some who withstood it: