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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. S. Austin, and the Fathers, are beholding to you: whose words (though not answering well to your fancies) are handled so gently. If you were as favourable to Sadeel and Mornay: that, which they write of Peter, would have a true meaning. Though, if they (with greater zeal unto his doctrine then unto his person, that is, to Christ then to Peter) had given a little less to him then is due: the fault were not so much to be •aide on their restraint, as on your excess, who say a great deal more of him then you ought. For example, Father cRobert, the Prince of the Jesuits (in his Divinity lectures read publicly at Rome about seven years ago) handling this same point of the foundation of the Church, did ground him self on a sentence of the Prophet Isaiah to prove it to be Peter, and Peters see, the see of Rome. Whereof to make his proof strong by the words which God doth speak of Christ, dBehold, I lay in Zion ⟨p. 62⟩a tried precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he affirmed that Isaiah did therein prophesy not of Christ, but of Peter, a stumbling stone to heretics, & a rock of offence, but to Catholics a tried, a precious, a corner stone. S. ePeter the Apostle expoundeth those words not of himself, but of Christ. Father Robert the Jesuit saith that they agree not to Christ, but to him. So to advance the Popes dignity by Peter: he maketh Peter himself, nay, the holy Ghost a liar. Such blasphemous outrages of your chief professors giving more to Peter then standeth with the truth and honour of the Son of God, might provoke the godly spirits of his servants to bend to the contrary: as husbandmen, when they would straighten a young plant that groweth crooked one way, do bow it to the other. But in the discourse of Sadeel and Mornay ▪ that the Church is built upon the confession of Peter not his person, there is no straining of ought beyond the truth (for the meaning of it) by your own judgement. For they approve and follow the exposition of S. Austin: and *