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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. This is not to prove that the Popes decrees in Councils are good: but to disprove rather the certainty which ⟨p. 428⟩you gave them in Consistories, Courts, and Councils. For not only Bishops assembled in the Council, but also Lawyers in the Court, yea Cardinals themselves in the Consistory of the Pope, may agree for fear to that which they like not, as oLeo the tenth made them to do. And, if the soundness of the Popes decrees may be distained by this affection: it may by other causes, and impediments also. For what if pthe Cardinals, misliking of the Pope for reproving their faults, qleave him (as they did Urban the sixth) and rmake a new Pope? What if they be unfaithful that he dare not trust their counsel and advise, sas Adrian the sixth durst not? What if they give him lewd and wicked counsel, that it deceive him if he trust it? Such as was the counsel of Cardinal tPucio: who exhorted Popes to make any gain, and said that they might do it lawfully. Chabrias, a skilful man of war said, uthat an army of hearts is more to be feared having a lion to their captain, then an army of lions having a hart. You bear us in hand that the Pope is a lion, and other men are hearts. But you make him the hart (me thinks) & them lions, when you say that himself may err and fail in faith, but he can not do it in Consistories, Courts & Councils. As if Christ had prayed for his brethren to strengthen him, and not for him to strengthen his brethren.
Rainoldes. This is not to proue that the Popes decréees in Councells are good: but to disproue rather the certaintie which ⟨p. 428⟩