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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. But if you would say as much for all Churches, you might prove it as wisely out of Irenaens, as you do for the Church of Rome.
Rainoldes. But if you would say as much for al Churches, you might proue it as wisely out of Irenaens, as you doo for the Church of Rome.
Hart. I deny that. For he doth not fetch the succession of true doctrine but from the Church of Rome against the Valentinians.
Rainoldes. D. oStapleton told you so, and you believed it. I know not whether I should more pity your credulity, or detest his impudency, who hath abused you with such lewd untruths; and that against his own knowledge, unless he knew not what he had written himself. For phim self had cited the words of Irenaeus which avouch the contrary: to wit, we can reckon them who were ordained Bishops by the Apostles in the Churches, & their successors until our time, qwho taught not any such thing, and so forth. But for as much as it would be very long to reckon the successions of all Churches: we declare the faith of the greatest, the most ancient and famous Church of Rome. Which faith hath continued until our time by the successions of Bishops. And again: rthe true knowledge is the doctrine of the Apostles, and the ancient state of the Church in the whole world, and