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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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The eighth chapter. The authority 1 of traditions and fathers pretended to prove the Popes supremacy: in vain; beside the scripture, which is the only rule of faith. The Fathers, 2 being heard with lawful exceptions that may be justly taken against them, 3 do not prove it. As it is showed, first, in Fathers of the Church of Rome. By the way, 4 the name of Priest, the Priestly sacrifice of Christians, the Popish sacrifice of Mass-priests, the proofs brought for the Mass, the substance and ceremonies of it, are laid open. And so it is declared that 5 neither the ancient Bishops of Rome themselves, 6 nor any other Fathers do prove the Popes supremacy.
The eighth chapter. The autoritie 1 of traditions and fathers pretended to proue the Popes supremacie: in vaine; beside the scripture, which is the onely rule of faith. The Fathers, 2 being heard with lawfull exceptions that may be iustly taken against them, 3 doo not proue it. As it is shewed, first, in Fathers of the Church of Rome. By the way, 4 the name of Priest, the Priestly sacrifice of Christians, the Popish sacrifice of Masse-priestes, the proofes brought for the Masse, the substance and ceremonies of it, are laid open. And so it is declared that 5 neither the auncient Bishops of Rome themselues, 6 nor any other Fathers do proue the Popes supremacie.
HART. 1You labour in vain, if you go about to persuade me that the Popes supremacy can not be proved by scripture. And what injurious dealing is this, to bring our own men, Canus, and Father Robert, for the proof thereof? as though the greatest favourers of us were against us.
HART. 1You labour in vaine, if you go about to perswade me that the Popes supremacie can not be proued by scripture. And what iniurious dealing is this, to bring our owne men, Canus, and Father Robert, for the proofe thereof? as though the greatest fauourers of vs were against vs.