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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. He showeth nothing less: as any man that readeth his discourse, may see. For, that which he speaketh of more, and of wanting, is not meant of scripture, that is, the word written; but of the word preached & delivered by mouth. Wherein he declareth that the Apostles manner of instructing men, was, zto feed them first with milk, not with strong meat. So, that which was wanting to the Thessalonians, was stronger doctrine of the faith: that which they had, was easier. Whereof though in the one he taught them more then in the other: yet no more in either, then athe scripture hath. And thus S. Austins more to be no more then scripture: himself maketh manifest by the example also which he giveth of it. For the doctrine of the manhood of Christ, he calleth milk; of the Godhead, strong meat. Now they who are taught to know him to be God, learn more then they had learned when they received him as man. But they learn no more then the scripture hath, bwhich teacheth him both God and man. Wherefore, that S. Austin condemning all who preach ought beside the scriptures of the law & the gospel, meant, that more then scriptures may be preached, but nought against them: it is not S Austins gloss, but your Lovanists, and in truth repugnant to S. Austins text. For cin the same place S. Austin making mention how the Donatists hated him for preaching of the truth and confuting ⟨p. 462⟩their heresy; *as though (saith he) we had commanded the Prophets and Apostles who were so long before us, that they in their books should set down no testimonies whereby the Donatists might be proved to be the church of Christ. Which words do show plainly, that as by the scriptures of the law & the gospel he signified the books of the Prophets & Apostles: so by condemning all that is beside the scriptures, he meant, not, all that is against, but, all that is not in the scriptures. And that this was his meaning, he showeth yet more plainly by willing them to prove their doctrine by the testament: which your Lovan