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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Then the written testament of Christ is unperfect. It will be gay and perfect with your traditions patched to it. But Optatus thought that his written testament is perfect of it self. Which shaketh all the frame of Popery in pieces. And this is that Optatus, lof whom S. Austin speaketh as of a worthy Catholic Bishop equal to Ambrose and Cyprian; of whom mFulgentius speaketh as of a holy faithful interpreter of Paul like to Austin and Ambrose; of whom nyour great Champion doth vaunt so gloriously, that he, nor he only, but the rest of the *Fathers are of your religion as surely and fully as the Pope himself, Pope Gregory the thirteenth: whereas in very truth not one of them is so. For Gregory the thirteenth is of your religion in the Popes supremacy, the chiefest point of Popery: as ohis rules of Chancery for re•eru ations and provisions, phis accursing of all that appeal from Popes to Councils, qhis bulls against decrees of Councils both provincial and general, do show. From which abomination how far the Fathers were, it shall appear when you allege them. But Optatus is so plain against your religion, in the point of scriptures and their sufficiency to decide all controversies: that your challenger (if he read him, and not believed▪ common-place-books of Canisius and other brokers) ⟨p. 465⟩might have blushed to boast of him. For those things, which rhe citeth out of Optatus, do not as much as raze the skin of our religion, though they seem to weak eye sights. But this, of scriptures only, doth break the neck of yours: and it is so clearly the judgement of Optatus, that your own