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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. S. Austins own words in deed. But what doth follow in S. Austin? Traditum est ergo nobis (sicut ipse commemorat) ab Apostolis, quòd sit unus deus, & Christus unus, & una spes, & fides una, & una ecclesia, & baptisma unum. That is to say: It is delivered therefore to us by the Apostles (as Cyprian himself rehearseth) that there is one God, and one Christ, and one hope, and one faith, and one church, and one baptism. These are S. Austins own words, and grounded on S. yCyprian too. So that he, and Cyprian, meant by [tradition] that, which is delivered: and that to be delivered, which is written in the scriptures. For this self same thing, whereof they speak, is written in the epistle of 2Paul to the Ephesians. Wherefore, their tradition is tradition written, that is to say, scripture: and not unwritten stuff, as your Jesuit would have it. Yea Cyprian is so plain for controversies to be decided by this tradition only, that in the same epistle (whence Austin citeth this) to the words of Stephanus, Traditum est, it is delivered, unde est ista traditio, faith he, whence is this tradition? Doth it come from the authority of the Lord and the gospel, or from the commandments and epistles of the Apostles? For that we must do those things which are written, God doth witness saying to Joshua, aLet not this book of the law depart out of thy mouth: but meditate in it day and night, that thou mayest observe to perform all things which are written therein. And likewise the Lord sending his Apostles willed them that bthe nations should be baptized, and taught to observe all things which he had commanded. Wherefore if this thing (of the which Stephanus saith, it is delivered,) be commanded in the gospel, or contained in the epistles or acts of the Apostles: let this divine and holy tradition be observed. See you not how Cyprian thought, that all, which Christ commanded to be taught, is written? How he meant this written doctrine by tradition? How his words of this tradition are approved by Austin? What conscience had your Jesuit to allege that for traditions beside scriptures, which they so plainly meant of the scriptures them selves?