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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Not so well. For their writings do not answer to many questions, which, if they were present, I would ask of them. But I am content with that which may be known so. Let the jury weigh it, and judge thereafter of their credit.
Rainoldes. Not so well. For their writings doo not answere to many questions, which, if they were present, I woulde aske of them. But I am content with that which may be knowne so. Let the iury weigh it, and iudge thereafter of their credit.
Hart. What? Shall meaner men, who be alive now, judge of the credit of the Fathers, who were so long in time, so far in gifts before them?
Hart. What? Shall meaner men, who be aliue now, iudge of the credit of the Fathers, who were so long in time, so farre in giftes before them?
Rainoldes. Evagrius, a mean man, wrote unto S. Jerome, desiring his opinion concerning Melchizedek, whether he were the holy Ghost. S. oJerome, answering him, when he had showed the judgements of the ancient writers Origen, Didymus, Hippolytus, Irenaeus, Eusebius Caesariensis, and Emisesenus, Apollinarius, Eustathius, and the best learned Jews, of whom some thought Melchizedek, an angel; some, a man: you have (saith he) what I have heard, what I have read touching Melchizedek. *To bring forth the witnesses, it was my part: let it be yours to judge of the credit of the witnesses. It seemed reason to S. Jerome that Evagrius should judge of of the witnesses whom he brought. What is there more in the Fathers, then was in those witnesses? What was there more in Evagrius, then is in many who live now?