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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. I have cause to doubt it. For though there be no man lightly so profane, as to profess that he will do so: yet (such is the blindness o• mens devotion to Saints) there have been heretofore who have so done, and are still. There is a famous fable touching the assumption of the blessed virgin: that, when the time of her death approached, the Apostles (then dispersed throughout the world to preach the gospel) were taken up in clouds, and brought miraculously to Jerusalem to be present at her funeral. This tale in old time was written in a book which bare the name of Melito, *an ancient learned Bishop of Asia: though he wrote it not be like. But whosoever wrote it, he wrote a lye, (saith tBede,) because his words gain say the words of S. Luke in the acts of the Apostles. Which Bede ⟨p. 474⟩having showed in sundry points of his tale, he saith, that he rehearseth these things, because he knoweth, that some believe that book with unadvised rashness against S. Lukes authority. So you see there have been who have believed a Father (yea perhaps a rascal, not a Father) against the scriptures. And that there are such still, I see by our countrymen, uyour divines of Rhemes: who vouch the same fable, upon greater credit of Fathers then the other, but with no greater truth.
Rainoldes. I haue cause to dout it. For though there be no man lightly so profane, as to professe that he will doo so: yet (such is the blindnes o• mens deuotion to Saintes) there haue béene heretofore who haue so done, and are still. There is a famous fable touching the assumption of the blessed virgin: that, when the time of her death approched, the Apostles (then dispersed throughout the world to preach the gospell) were taken vp in cloudes, and brought miraculously to Ierusalem to be present at her funerall. This tale in olde time was writen in a booke which bare the name of Melito, *an auncient learned Bishop of Asia: though he wrote it not be like. But whosoeuer wrote it, he wrote a lye, (saith