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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Why keep you then still the feasts of the Apostles, Evangelists, & other Saints, and not abolish them also? As some of your reformed, or rather your deformed Churches, have done?
Hart. Why keepe you then still the feastes of the Apostles, Euangelists, & other Saintes, and not abolish them also? As some of your reformed, or rather your deformed Churches, haue doon?
Rainoldes. Our deformed Churches are glorious in his sight, who nrequireth men to worship him in spirit & truth: though you, besotted with the whorish beauty of your synagogues, do scorn at their simpleness, as othe proud spirit of Mical did at David when he was vile before the Lord. The Churches of Scotland, Flanders, France, and pothers, allow not holy days of Saints, because no day may be kept holy but to the honour of God. Of the same judgement is the Church of England for the use of holy days. Wherefore,q although by keeping the names of Saints days, we may seem to keep them to the honour of Saints: yet in deed we keep them holy to God ⟨p. 471⟩only, to praise his name for those benefits which he hath bestowed on us by the ministry of his Saints. And so have qthe Churches of Flanders and France expounded well our meaning, in that they have noted that some Churches submit them selves to their weakness with whom they are conversant, so far forth that they keep the holy days of Saints, though in an other sort, nay in a clean contrary, then the Papists do.