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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Nay: no whit to narrow. For the mediation which we give to Saints, is so far inferior to the divine and singular mediation of Christ, that whereas we say to them, Pray for us, we say not so to him, we do not think of him so basely, but we desire him to have mercy upon us. Wherefore, we make him only mediator of salvation; and them, of intercession.
Hart. Nay: no whit to narrow. For the mediation which we giue to Saintes, is so farre inferiour to the diuine and singular mediation of Christ, that whereas we say to them, Pray for vs, we say not so to him, we doo not thinke of him so basely, but wée desire him to haue mercy vpon vs. Wherefore, we make him onely mediatour of saluation; and them, of intercession.
Rainoldes. Yet is your plaster too narrow for the sore which you apply it too. For the blood and wounds of Thomas are presented, in the prayers that I spake off. And although you think not of intercession generally, as ethe scripture doth, which maketh it proper to fthe only mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus: yet (I hope) you think of that intercession by the blood and wounds, that it is his alone, who gave him self a ransom for us, and gredeemed us with his precious blood. But if it were so that Thomas might be made a mediator of intercession in this preeminent sort: that can not heal your Portesse. For it doth make him flatly a mediator of salvation: not only to pray for us, but to have mercy upon us. Op•• nobis ô Thoma porrige: Rege stantes, jacentes erige: Mores, actus, & vitam corrig•: Et in paci• nos viam dirige. ⟨p. 481⟩