A10345:1522
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. He saith, that the Apostles and Apostolic men are set for an example to Priests, and Bishops, not to monks. True: in some respects. And yet, me thinks too. But what if the Fathers perhaps might be deceived so, through oversight?
Hart. He saith, that the Apostles and Apostolike men are set for an example to Priestes, and Bishops, not to moonkes. True: in some respectes. And yet, me thinkes too. But what if the Fathers perhaps might be deceiued so, through ouersight?
Rainoldes. If they might be deceived so through oversight: they might be deceived through affection also. For they were men, and subject to it. As tCyprian, through too much hatred of heretics, condemned the baptism of heretics, as unlawful: wherein ua Council erred with him. As xOrigen, through too much compassion of the wicked, thought that the devils them •elues should be saved at length. As yTertullian, through spite of the Roman clergy, revolted to the Montanists: and zcalled the Catholics, carnal men, because they were not so precise as the Montanists in points of marriage and fasting.
Rainoldes. If they might be deceiued so through ouersight: they might be deceiued through affection also. For they were men, and subiect to it. As tCyprian, through too much hatred of heretikes, condemned the baptisme of heretikes, as vnlawfull: wherein