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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Paul, that a maid betrothed to a man of wealth and worship, (and so 1his wife by right,) should forsake her husband and go away with him. Wherefore, though you mind not to press me with things of later writers, but of old & ancient, as you say: yet was it not impertinent to mention your Portesse and stories of the like authority. For neither do I know what number of years you will think sufficient to prove a writer old: and though you account none old, but such as lived many hundred ⟨p. 497⟩years since; yet are their fables in your Portesse (as namely uthis of Thecla) even out of them also. Yea the most of those things, not only this of Thecla, but the most of those things which Gelasius Bishop of Rome, and the Council, condemned for unsound: I say, the most of those things are rehearsed in your legends, and in the most of your Portesses. Which thing I affirm not of mine own knowledge, for I have not seen so many sorts of Portesses that I can vouch it of the most: but xClaudius Espencaeus, a Doctor of Paris, an eager enemy of Beza (, the worthier of credit herein,) affirmeth it, and he affirmeth it with great asseveration that it is so 1undoubtedly. Nor doth he touch them only for these so ancient lies, but for many more, which are of less ancientie, and that upon the judgement of sundry learned men, and not his private fancy. For he allegeth yPeter, a venerable Abbot, (who lived four hundred years ago,) saying, that the songs and hymns of the Church had very many toys: as namely an hymn in the praise of S. Benet; in the which, though reading it over somewhat hastily, and staying not to search all, yet he found 2at least four and twenty lies. He allegeth an other zPeter complaining likewise and reproving a false and fond hymn in the praise of S. Mawre running upon the waters. He allegeth the