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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. The fathers them selves? With a very good will. But look that you bring me the Fathers them selves. For, (which is my last exception, and so an end,) there are many books entitled to Fathers which the Fathers made not: nay whereof sundry were made by such youths, as are not worthy to bear the Fathers shoes. The works of S. Jerome are abroad in nine volumes: of the which nine as good as three are none of his. And yet Vitae patrum, (a legend, how wrongfully fathered on S. Jerome your tEspencaeus & uCanus show,) is not amongst them. Though there are amongst them slips of the same tree: 1a barbarous and sottish fable (as Canus calleth it) of the nativity of S. Mary, and 2many other treatises of the same kind, which Erasmus hath refuted *most diligently & rightly. The works of S. Austin have not been tampered with, so much, in this sort. Notwithstanding there is not above one or two of his ten volumes, that hath not more or fewer such pamphlets patched to it. Not only by the judgement and censure of Erasmus, which yet you see how Canus esteemeth in S. Jerome: but also of the Lovanists, whose censures are the censures of many of your best Divines; and xthey show that sundry things bear S. Austins name, whereof some are unlearned, some lewd, and heretical. But what do I speak of Jerome and Austin? when there is scarce any amongst all the Fathers that hath not been abused so. The Friar (whom yStapleton doth ⟨p. 505⟩commend greatly for diligence, and judgement,) zSixtus Senensis hath written a discourse touching the false entitling of books, whence it cometh, and how to find it out. Therein he hath proved that books are fathered falsely, not only upon Austin and Jerome, whom I named, but also upon Ambrose, Cyprian, Athanasius, Eusebius Emisenus, Junilius, Cyril, Eucherius, Arnobius, yea Thomas of Aquine too. With this discourse he closeth up the former volume of