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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Or if you reply, they gave them that name because they called them [Greek or Hebrew], whence our English name of Priests is derived: yet you cannot say they called them Priests, as the name of Priest hath a relation to sacrifice: and therefore that name is nothing to the Mass, which you would prove by it. For so the word [Priest] must yet have two meanings: the one of [Greek or Hebrew], the other of [Greek or Hebrew]. Whereof the one is given by the Apostles: but doth not imply authority to sacrifice. The other doth imply authority to sacrifice: but is not given by the Apostles,
Or if you replie, they gaue them that name because they called thē 〈non-Latin alphabet〉, whence our English name of Priests is deriued: yet you cannot say they called them Priestes, as the name of Priest hath a relation to sacrifice: and therfore that name is nothing to the Masse, which you would proue by it. For so the word [Priest] must yet haue two meaninges: the one of 〈non-Latin alphabet〉, the other of 〈non-Latin alphabet〉. Wherof the one is giuen by the Apostles: but doth not implie autoritie to sacrifice. The other doth imply autoritie to sacrifice: but is not giuen by the Apostles,
Hart. But sith the name of Priest is properly derived from the word presbyter, 1or (as it is in Greek) [Greek or Hebrew], not only in English, but in other languages, both French, and Italian: why did not your translators keep this according to the Greek, and devise an other for [Greek or Hebrew], that is sacerdos, if they would needs distinguish them by different names. For it is (as I said) a notorious folly to apply willingly the word Priest to sacerdos, and to ⟨p. 539⟩take it from presbyter whereof it is derived properly.