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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Here is a fair tale for them, whose eyes are dim, and cannot judge of colours. But they who can discern between words, and proofs, do see that never less was said with greater show. For, the point whereof proof should be made, is that the vestments which are worn of Bishops and Priests saying Mass, were used all of them by the primitive Church. The words which D. Stapleton speaketh of this point, are so far from proving it, that the most of them do not as much as touch it. For the copes, which kEpiphanius (he saith) calleth [Greek or Hebrew], are the garments which the Scribes & Pharisees did wear with *phylacteries, and fri•ges. And the Scribes and Pharisees (I trow) said not Mass. lThe robes or hangings of the altar in Theodoret, are 1coverings. The coverings and linen clothes, in mOptatus, are ornaments of the Communion table, such as we also use. Is our communion Mass too?
Rainoldes. Here is a faire tale for them, whose eyes are dim, and cannot iudge of colours. But they who can discerne betwéene wordes, and proofes, doo sée that neuer lesse was saide with greater shew. For, the pointe whereof proofe should bee made, is that the vestiments which are worne of Bishops and Priests saying Masse, were vsed all of them by the primitiue Church. The wordes which D. Stapleton speaketh of this point, are so farre from prouing it, that the most of them doo not as much as touch it. For the copes, which kEpiphanius (hee saith) calleth 〈non-Latin alphabet〉, are the garments which the Scribes & Pharises did weare with *phylacteries, and fri•ges. And the Scribes and Pharises (I trow) said not Masse.