A10345:1997
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Not for any sovereignty of power that he had to make matters true, of false; or good, of evil: but to make his subjects use them as good, and true, being so in deed. Which perhaps the Fathers of the Council meant too. But your own answer may teach you to mend your imagination of that they wrote to Pope Damasus. For the doctrine of Christ, which they decreed, was true; & the discipline, good; though he had not consented to it. But more would accept of it as good, & true, through his agreement and allowance. As we see that many do follow the minds of Bishops. Wherefore it was the Popes authority and credit, for which they desired his consent to their decrees: not for any sovereignty of power that he had in matters of religion. Which is plain by their craving not of him alone, but of other Bishops to like thereof also, that the Christian faith being agreed upon, and love confirmed amongst them, they ⟨p. 639⟩might keep the Church from schisms and dissensions.
Rainoldes. Not for any soueraintie of power that hee had to make matters true, of false; or good, of euill: but to make his subiectes vse them as good, and true, being so in déede. Which perhaps the Fathers of the Councell meant too. But your own answere may teach you to mend your imagination of that they wrote to Pope Damasus. For the doctrine of Christ, which they decréed, was true; & the discipline, good; though he had not consented to it. But more would accept of it as good, & true, through his agréement and allowance. As we sée that manie doe follow the mindes of Bishops. Wherefore it was the Popes autoritie and credit, for which they desired his consent to their decrées: not for any soueraintie of power that he had in matters of religion. Which is plaine by their crauing not of him alone, but of other Bishops to like thereof also, that the Christian faith being agreed vpon, and loue confirmed amongst them, they ⟨p. 639⟩might keepe the Church from schismes and dissensions.
Hart. All Bishops might allow the decrees of Councils by consenting to them. But the Pope confirmed them in special sort. For S.