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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. I grant, the Council of Nice doth bring matters first from the Bishop to the Synod. But if the Synod also do give unjust sentence: then is the Pope left for the last refuge.
Hart. I grant, the Councell of Nice doth bring matters first from the Bishop to the Synode. But if the Synode also doe giue vniust sentence: then is the Pope left for the last refuge.
Rainoldes. The Council meant not so: but that the last refuge should be the Synod still. For they do not say, till it shall seem good to the Bishop of Rome, but, to the Synod of Bishops, to give more gentle sentence of them. Yea, even the particular honour and preeminence of his, which they mention, is a plain token that they dreamed not of such a general power. For it followeth straight in cthe next canon, Let old customs be kept, they that are in Egypt, and Libya, and Pentapolis, that the Bishop of Alexandria have the preeminence of all these: because such is the custom of the Bishop of Rome too. Likewise also in Antioch, and in other provinces, let the ⟨p. 657⟩Churches enjoy their dignities and prerogatives. Which words of the Council grounding on the custom of the Bishop of Rome, that as he had preeminence of all the Bishops about him, so Alexandria and Antioch should have of all about them, and likewise other churches, (as the Metropolitan,) each in their own provinces: do show, that the Pope neither had preeminence of all through the world before the Nicene Council, nor ought to have greater preeminence (by their judgement) then he before time had.
Rainoldes. The Councell meant not so: but that the last refuge should be the Synode still. For they doe not say, till it shall seeme good to the Bishop of Rome, but, to the Synode of Bishops, to geue more gentle sentence of them. Yea, euen the particular honour and preeminence of his, which they mention, is a plaine token that they dreamed not of such a generall power. For it followeth straight in