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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Nay, the Council did not limit the preeminence and power of the Church of Rome by those words: but they followed rather it as a pattern, in advancing others. For the Nicene Council, (saith dNicolas the first) durst not make any decree of that Church: as knowing that nothing could be given her above her desert; yea, that she had all things by the grant of Christ. And if the Councels canons be diligently marked, you shall find doubtless, that they gave no increase to the church of Rome: but rather took example of the form thereof for that which they would give to the church of Alexandria.
Hart. Nay, the Councell did not limit the preeminence and power of the Church of Rome by those wordes: but they followed rather it as a paterne, in aduancing others. For the Nicen Councell, (sayth dNicolas the first) durst not make any decree of that Church: as knowing that nothing could be giuen her aboue her desert; yea, that she had al things by the grant of Christ. And if the Councels canons bee diligently marked, you shall find doubtlesse, that they gaue no increase to the church of Rome: but rather tooke example of the forme therof for that which they would geue to the church of Alexandria.
- dEpist. ad Michael. Imperatorem. Concilior. Tom. 3. Sur.
Rainoldes. Pope Nicolas, endeavouring to prove his supremacy by records of Councils, some impudently forged, as the Council of Sinuessa; some lewdly misexpounded, as *the Council of Chalcedon: not knowing what to say well of the Council of Nice, doth shape this answer to it, for lack of a better. But as a drunken man that hath a giddy head, intending to go one way sometimes, doth reel an other: so fareth it with him. For, in saying that they took example of the form of the Church of Rome for that which they would give to the Church of Alexandria: he granteth that as the Bishop of Alexandria had but the preeminence of all thereabout, no more had the Bishop of Rome. And seeing that example is allowed therein, and made a pattern of the rest: it followeth that the Council thereby did decree that the Bishop of Rome should keep within those limits. Which to be the purport of that Nicene canon: not only singular authors,