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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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1Moreover, least the painting of the Romish Church should make unskilful young men to be enamoured of her, when they should hear many commend her as Catholic, Apostolic, and sound in faith: to take this visard also away from her face, & wash away her painting with water of the holy Ghost, I have added the fifth Conclusion, that the Church of Rome is not the Catholic Church, nor a sound member of the Catholic church. A matter, clear in truth, but hard to be persuaded: specially to lovers: for Cupid is blind. And as he saith in aTheocritus, The things that are not fair, seem fair to him that is in love. Daphnis in the Poet saith so to Polyphemus: we by experience have found it true in Bristow. For he, being besotted with the love of the whore, is not content to say that she alone is Catholic: that error were more tolerable; at least it were an error common to him with many. But bhe affirmeth farther, that the Church might be & was called Apostolic, for this cause only, that we might be directed thereby as by a mark to the Church of Rome, founded by the Apostles Peter and Paul, the only Church now left of all the Churches Apostolic. Which flattering speech of this lover cthe Pope of Rome himself, the bridegroom of his Church, though doting on his bride too, yet refuseth: acknowledging that the Church was called Apostolic (by dthe Fathers in the Creed) to note the beginning of the Church which it hath from the Apostles, because they delivered once the Churches doctrine, and spread it abroad through all the world. As for them ethat give the title of Catholic to the Church of Rome: they must take advisement how to clear their boldness from attaint of ⟨p. 673⟩sacrilege, who deck an adulteress with the spoils of the spouse of Christ; or, (to think the best of the Church of Rome,) who spoil the mother to deck the daughter, and her not the best, with great wrong and injury to the rest of the sisters. For the name of Catholic doth not appertain to this or that Church, but to the Church universal, continued through all nations, ages, and provinces, from Adam unto us and to our posterity: as the