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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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yea, so sound and right, that they think no pestilent disease may attach her, no contagion infect her, no spot of unfaithfulness any way defile her. Of the which assertion they allege the Fathers, (to omit the residue, men of baser credit,) for principal patrons. And therein hAndradius dealeth somewhat wisely. For he doth heap together witnesses without testimonies, the givers of evidence without evidence, Austins, Jeromes, Basils, Athanases, and Chrysostoms. But iSanders much more gloriously. For he hath laid on such a l•ade of testimonies, that, if the sayings should be numbered and not weighed, we must leese our suite, no remedy. But all the Fathers (whom this petty-lawyer produceth as speakers for the Popes monarchy,) do either deny that the Church of Rome did err, or that it may err: did err, as kIrenaeus, In the Church of Rome that doctrine hath been kept still which was delivered by the Apostles: may err, as l.Cyprian, that the Romans are they whose faith is commended and praised by the Apostle, unto whom unfaithfulness can not have access. The former, who deny that the Church of Rome did err, speak not against us. For we do not say that it did err in Irenaeus time, but that it doth err now. He denieth that it did err: we say that it doth err: do we gainsay one another? Jerusalem is called mthe city of God by the Psalmist, and nhe is said there to be served: oIsaiah termeth it an harlot. The temple of the Lord is named pthe house of God, the house of prayer, by Solomon: by Christ it is reported to be q