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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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But if you consider that the true meaning thereof, which I have opened, most agreeable to the scripture, most comfortable to the faithful, is condemned and accursed by the standard-bearers of the church of Rome: you will cease to marvel. For in nthe Council of Constance, in which they condemned John Huss for an heretic, they condemned these two sayings, as heretical, to be burned with him: othat there is one holy universal Church which is the whole company of them that are predestinate; and, pthat the Church, as it is taken in this sense for the company of them that are predestinate, is the article of our faith. Which sayings of his to be counted ungodly it seemed strange to me: and so much the more, because I perceived that the Fathers (whose words the Papists will seem to make great account of when they serve their purpose) did use the same squire to measure out the Catholic church by. For qClemens Alexandrinus doth expressly call it the company of the elect, into which are gathered the faithful and just, whom God did predestinate before the creation of the world. Likewise rAmbrose, having said that the honour of God the father is in Christ and in the church, defineth the church to be a people which God hath vouchsafed to adopt to him self. Furthermore sGregory the Bishop of Rome affirmeth that all the elect are contained within the compass and circuit of the church, all the reprobate are without it. And tBernard declaring the church to be the company of all the elect, which company was predestinate before the world began, doth touch it as a mystery which he had learned of Paul, and saith that he will boldly utter it. As for Austin, a man of sharpest judgement of them all, he neither acknowledgeth u