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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. My judgement of the Schoolmen, is such as they deserve. If Canus have judged more favourably of them, he is to be borne with: sith rhim self desired to be thought a Schoolman. Though, if I should grant them as much as he doth, that, when they all agree in one they must be followed: they would not trouble us greatly in many points of faith. For they are at such contention (for the most part) and that, about such matters: that S. sPauls reproof of questions and strife of words never fell on any more justly then on them. But as Canus speaketh of School-divines, and School-divinity: he and I dissent not, though I be against them, and he for them, in show. Sophocles, the poet, (a writer of tragedies) being asked of his friend, why, when he brought in the persons of women, he made them always good, whereas Euripides made them bad: because I (quoth he) do ⟨p. 111⟩represent women such as they should be: Euripides, such as they be. So the matter fareth between me and Canus. For he doth paint out Schoolmen such as they should be: and I such as they be. I speak against them who perverting the scriptures, have profaned divinity with philosophy, or rather sophistry, and yet are called School-divines, when they are neither Scholars in truth, nor Divines. He accounteth none a School-divine, but him, twho reasoneth of God and things concerning God, fitly, wisely, learnedly out of the holy scriptures & ordinances of God. Now, if none be a School-divine, but such; nor any divinity, School-divinity but that, *which is set on the foundations of the holy scriptures, as Canus doth define it: then shall I gladly both yield to School-divinity, & follow School-divines: but I deny them to be School-divines, whom you meant in citing Schoolmen. Yea even Thomas of Aquine, whom your Popes set more by, then by all the Doctors, placing him as 1chiefest, and 2