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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. You are very peremptory still in your speeches. I will find in them as much for the substance as I have affirmed▪ For, howsoever the words of Pastoral charge, and the Apostleship; the power of regiment, and government, agree with my meaning: my meaning, (I am sure) agreeth with the scriptures, and standeth with good reason.
Hart. You are very peremptorie still in your spéeches. I wil find in them as much for the substance as I haue affirmed▪ For, howsoeuer the wordes of Pastorall charge, and the Apostleship; the power of regiment, and gouernment, agree with my meaning: my meaning, (I am sure) agreeth with the scriptures, and standeth with good reason.
Rainoldes. Then you shall do well hereafter to refrain from such foggy distinctions, devised to choke the blind, ⟨p. 129⟩(who eat many a fly:) and express your meaning in clear and plain words: least we suspect, that you fancy darkness more then light.
Rainoldes. Then you shall do well hereafter to refraine from such foggy distinctions, deuised to choke the blinde, ⟨p. 129⟩(who eate many a flie:) and expresse your meaning in cleare and playne wordes: least we suspect, that you fansie darkenesse more then light.
Hart. This is my meaning, that Peter had authority over the Apostles to feed them, to rule them, to be a Pastor of them: which the rest of the Apostles had neither over him nor one over an other.