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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. Be it so: that Christ spake (in his commission) to them, as to shepherds. Yet were they also sheep of the flock of Christ. And therefore he might well appoint a shepherd over them.
Hart. Be it so: that Christ spake (in his commission) to them, as to shepheards. Yet were they also shéepe of the flocke of Christ. And therefore he might well appoint a shepheard ouer them.
Rainoldes. And was not Peter also a sheep of Christs flock? And must▪ not our Saviour appoint by this reason, a shepherd over him also? For, if all sheep need it: why not S. Peter? If some need it not: why the Apostles? But, it is true, that, as they were sheep, so needed they sometimes to be ⟨p. 134⟩fed, the best of them: and this did Christ provide for, though not with your policy; not by setting one as Pastor over all, but by giving charge of every one to other. For as S. Paul said to the Elders of Ephesus, pTake heed unto your selves and to all the flock, charging them with care not of their flock only, but of themselves too, all of all, and each of other: in like sort the Apostles who had charge of all in that they were shepherds, were to be looked too, in that they were sheep, to be admonished, taught, fed, not every one of Peter, but every one of other, yea even Peter also him self, if need required. Hereof their practise is a proof. For qwhen Peter went not with a right foot to the truth of the Gospel: S. Paul reproved him openly before all men for it. But to reprove him was to feed him. Therefore S. Paul did feed S. Peter.
Rainoldes. And was not Peter also a shéepe of Christs flock? And must▪ not our Sauiour appoint by this reason, a shepheard ouer him also? For, if all sheepe need it: why not S. Peter? If some néed it not: why the Apostles? But, it is true, that, as they were shéepe, so néeded they sometimes to bee