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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. In deed I did signify so much to M. Secretary: neither am I unwilling to do that I have promised. Howbeit, I wish rather, that if a conference be purposed, the learned men of our side, whom we have many beyond sea, might be sent for hither, of riper years, and sounder judgement. As for me: the condition of conference with you is somewhat un-even. For I lie in prison, and am adjudged to dye: the closeness of the one, & terror of the other, doth dull a mans spirits, and make him very unfit for study. I neither am of great years, nor ever was of great reading: and yet of that which I have read I have forgotten much, by reason of my long restraint. I am destitute of books: we are not permitted to have any at all, saving the Bible only. You of the other side may have books at will: and you come fresh from the university: whereby you are the readier to use them and allege them. These are great disadvantages, for me to enter into conference with you. Nevertheless, I am content, as I have said, to do it: so that my wants may be supplied with furniture of books, such as I shall desire.
Hart. In deede I did signifie so much to M. Secretarie: neither am I vnwilling to do that I haue promised. Howbeit, I wish rather, that if a conference be purposed, the learned men of our side, whome we haue many beyond sea, might be sent for hether, of riper yeares, and sounder iudgement. As for mée: the condition of conference with you is somewhat vn-euen. For I lie in prison, and am adiudged to dye: the closenesse of the one, & terror of the other, doth dull a mans spirits, and make him very vnfitte for study. I neither am of great yeares, nor euer was of great reading: and yet of that which I haue read I haue forgotten much, by reason of my long restraint. I am destitute of bookes: we are not permitted to haue any at all, sauing the Bible onely. You of the other side may haue bookes at will: and you come fresh from the vniuersitie: whereby you are the readier to vse them and alleage them. These are great disaduantages, for me to enter into conference with you. Neuerthelesse, I am content, as I haue said, to do it: so that my wantes may be supplied with furniture of bookes, such as I shall desire.
Rainoldes. The learned men of your side, it lieth not in me to procure hither. I would to God none of them had ever come from Rome with traitorous intent, nay more then intent: