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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. The books that I would have, are principally in deed ⟨p. 36⟩the Fathers and the Councils: which all do make for us, as do the scriptures also. But for my direction to find out their places in all points of controversy which I can neither remember readily, nor dare to trust my self in them: I would have our writers, which in the several points (whereof they treat) have cited them, and build themselves upon them. In the question of the Church and the supremacy, 1Doctor Stapleton; of the Sacraments, and sacrifice of the Mass, oDoctor Allen; of the worshipping of Saints and Images, pDoctor Harpsfield, whose books were set forth by Alan Cope, & bear his name, as qcertain letters in them show. Likewise for the rest of the points that lie in controversy, them who in particular have best written of them: & for them all in general, S. rThomas of Aquine, & sFather Roberts Dictates, and chiefly 7the confession that Torrensis, an other father of the society of Jesus, hath gathered out of S. Augustine, which book we set the more by, ubecause of all the Fathers S. Augustine is the chiefest, as well in our as your judgement: and his doctrine is the common doctrine of the Fathers: whose consent is the rule whereby controversies should be ended.
Hart. The bookes that I would haue, are principally in déed ⟨p. 36⟩the Fathers and the Councels: which all do make for vs, as do the scriptures also. But for my direction to finde out their places in all poyntes of controuersie which I can neither remember redily, nor dare to trust my selfe in them: I would haue our writers, which in the seuerall poyntes (whereof they treate) haue cited them, and buyld themselues vpon them. In the question of the Church and the supremacie,