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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. But we do not allege, only, the scripture: nor will be tried by it alone. The heretics appeal to nothing but to scripture: and the Devil alleged the scripture only against Christ.
Hart. But we doo not alleage, onely, the scripture: nor will be tried by it alone. The heretikes appeale to nothing but to scripture: and the Deuill alleaged the scripture only against Christ.
Rainoldes. This is more, then you ••nde in the words of Vincentius: it is your own fancy. He saith, that heretics do allege the scripture: that, nothing else but it, he saith not. Neither could he have said so without a lye. For they allege many reasons beside the scripture, even whatsoever helpeth to countenance their errors: sometime the aChurch, sometime bTradition, sometime cCouncils, sometime dFathers, sometime eMiracles, sometime fVisions, sometime gSuccession of Bishops, sometime hsuch other Motives, as your Bristow calleth them. Yea, they have greater advantage for their errors against the catholic faith, by these, then by scripture. For these may be truly alleged against it, as they have been often: the scripture can never, but falsely, and wrongfully. As for that the Devil alleged the scripture only, against Christ: you think his example discrediteth the trial of truth in points of faith by the scripture only. And so it may seem to a weak eye. But to such as mark it with a sharper sight, it doth confirm it rather. For